I am looking forward to this industry coming to our community. It is needed to keep WL moving forward. I hope the people that are against this project welcome the people and their families who will be here building and leading it with the same open arms that they would any other newcomer.
I hope that there will be balanced reporting in that you interview some of the more than 3000 petition signers opposed to construction of a chip packaging plant at this PRF owned location rather than at a site close to a highway and far from residential areas.
I know I haven't heard back on my questions regarding the MSDS / Chemical Abstracts Service number for the chemicals that will be used at the West Lafayette facility and if those are not available, the same for similar facilities.
Update: I received an email from Mark Kim. Waiting on a link for this source: "For your reference, we have uploaded a list of the major materials we are considering to our website."
Has anyone seen the new list?
I also learned that SK hynix is unwilling to share their material safety data for other facilities: "Please be aware that existing SDSs from South Korea may differ in terms of manufacturers and materials, and we are unable to share them due to trade secret agreements."
I wasn't asking for processes or measurements of these materials, I just need to know what is being used onsite.
" Considering"? Come on Mark Kim. You don't build $3.87 billion factory and not know EXACTLY what you plan to use. This is not acceptable. Stop lying to us.
1) It's PFAS. Lots and lots of different ones. Based on studies of a handful of specific ones, we can assume that the tens of thousands of unstudied PFAS are all bad for people. It does not really matter which PFAS they use. The company would rather not disclose which ones work for them.
Demanding a MSDS for each PFAS is like asking for the serial numbers on bullets they plan to shoot. (Have you ever read a MSDS? They never tell a clear story.) It will not help public safety and it will reveal trade secrets.
Focus on how they will track PFAS emissions as a class of compounds, not a specific list of CAS numbers. That is hard to do.
2) It's HF. There is no more dangerous substance used in industry.
3) It's F2. Higher acute toxicity than phosgene.
4) All the F's mean fluorine, known earlier as phthor, based on an old word for destruction. Check the user name.
It is frustrating that the general public thinks this is harmless. The games they will keep on premise and in the gas yard are so toxic and dangerous. The city knows. They don't care. They need the $$.
A realtor from Keller Williams refers to the stall in U Farm home sales since last May as being due to "extenuating circumstances." Mmhmm. They will tell you privately it's the factory... But won't stick their neck out against Purdue and say it in public.
I am around many families with young children who live all over the county. I overhear the parents talking about plans for looking at houses to buy in the general community. There are other reasons they are avoiding buying within city limits but this fab in the midst of the best housing area for families certainly doesn't encourage moving to the city in that area.
I remember the young mother in Lafayette speaking up at that May 5th WL city council meeting. Her family had actively been looking to buy a home in WL and were ready to make an offer to purchase a house in the northern part of the city limits. She said that night that they were not going to buy the house they had planned on buying. Of all those testimonies that night, hers was one of the main comments that stood out to me. It is sad because WL used to be such a draw for young families.
When we moved to the area, we considered a home in a neighborhood near the "Staley plant". We loved the house and neighborhood - we didn't want to live by a large factory with the truck traffic. That was before we were aware of the odor problem. We bought elsewhere.
I would think realtors would know the reality of how this chosen location for this fab affects the real estate market.
They know. Charlie Shook said it would raise home values. That's a lie. But there sure are alot of Shook Commercial Realty signs surrounding the factory site. They have skin in this game.
I am looking forward to this industry coming to our community. It is needed to keep WL moving forward. I hope the people that are against this project welcome the people and their families who will be here building and leading it with the same open arms that they would any other newcomer.
No matter what the company, city council members or PRF say at this point will build trust. It's the wrong location PERIOD.
Safety idea: force SK hynix executives and engineers to live within 2 km of the plant.
Many of them likely will.
If not, we have our answer.
I would guess a number of the transplants will live at the new subdivision being built behind Hadley Moors with the 750k-1.2M homes.
It's hard to trust a liar.
You must be speaking about all the false allegations the leaders of the resistance have promulgated?
I hope that there will be balanced reporting in that you interview some of the more than 3000 petition signers opposed to construction of a chip packaging plant at this PRF owned location rather than at a site close to a highway and far from residential areas.
P.S. I am just the spokesperson of the group. We are all working hard to get the facts out.
They are hiding alot of important information from citizens. Stop the lies and misdirection and own the facts.
Great news
Thanks, Dave. One way that will build back trust is to answer the questions that have been sent to SK hynix's website: https://www.skhynix.com/westlafayette.IN/UI-FR-WL42/
I know I haven't heard back on my questions regarding the MSDS / Chemical Abstracts Service number for the chemicals that will be used at the West Lafayette facility and if those are not available, the same for similar facilities.
Update: I received an email from Mark Kim. Waiting on a link for this source: "For your reference, we have uploaded a list of the major materials we are considering to our website."
Has anyone seen the new list?
I also learned that SK hynix is unwilling to share their material safety data for other facilities: "Please be aware that existing SDSs from South Korea may differ in terms of manufacturers and materials, and we are unable to share them due to trade secret agreements."
I wasn't asking for processes or measurements of these materials, I just need to know what is being used onsite.
Is anyone else curious to know?
" Considering"? Come on Mark Kim. You don't build $3.87 billion factory and not know EXACTLY what you plan to use. This is not acceptable. Stop lying to us.
Not a chip maker but read to the end.
1) It's PFAS. Lots and lots of different ones. Based on studies of a handful of specific ones, we can assume that the tens of thousands of unstudied PFAS are all bad for people. It does not really matter which PFAS they use. The company would rather not disclose which ones work for them.
Demanding a MSDS for each PFAS is like asking for the serial numbers on bullets they plan to shoot. (Have you ever read a MSDS? They never tell a clear story.) It will not help public safety and it will reveal trade secrets.
Focus on how they will track PFAS emissions as a class of compounds, not a specific list of CAS numbers. That is hard to do.
2) It's HF. There is no more dangerous substance used in industry.
3) It's F2. Higher acute toxicity than phosgene.
4) All the F's mean fluorine, known earlier as phthor, based on an old word for destruction. Check the user name.
So that's the meaning of your profile's first name.
I've used it longer than SK hynix has used their name, originally because saying "Phthor Q" is kinda fun.
Fluorine is formidable, not fun. Speaking from experience.
It is frustrating that the general public thinks this is harmless. The games they will keep on premise and in the gas yard are so toxic and dangerous. The city knows. They don't care. They need the $$.
A realtor from Keller Williams refers to the stall in U Farm home sales since last May as being due to "extenuating circumstances." Mmhmm. They will tell you privately it's the factory... But won't stick their neck out against Purdue and say it in public.
I am around many families with young children who live all over the county. I overhear the parents talking about plans for looking at houses to buy in the general community. There are other reasons they are avoiding buying within city limits but this fab in the midst of the best housing area for families certainly doesn't encourage moving to the city in that area.
I remember the young mother in Lafayette speaking up at that May 5th WL city council meeting. Her family had actively been looking to buy a home in WL and were ready to make an offer to purchase a house in the northern part of the city limits. She said that night that they were not going to buy the house they had planned on buying. Of all those testimonies that night, hers was one of the main comments that stood out to me. It is sad because WL used to be such a draw for young families.
When we moved to the area, we considered a home in a neighborhood near the "Staley plant". We loved the house and neighborhood - we didn't want to live by a large factory with the truck traffic. That was before we were aware of the odor problem. We bought elsewhere.
I would think realtors would know the reality of how this chosen location for this fab affects the real estate market.
They know. Charlie Shook said it would raise home values. That's a lie. But there sure are alot of Shook Commercial Realty signs surrounding the factory site. They have skin in this game.