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Brian Leung's avatar

Will Lafayette City Council issue a statement that calls hen ownership within city limits "pivotal" to Lafayette? The stakes aren't quite as high, but, a boy can dream.

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Christopher Wood's avatar

Chickens - Yay

Roosters - Nay

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Christopher Wood's avatar

THANKS, Greater Lafayette Commerce!!!

During decades in corporate America, I was always wary of the 'jump on the bandwagon" for the new product or policy rollouts.

That said, after careful study, I've concluded the pros of opening the way for this development that will put our city on the cutting edge of technology far outweigh the cons.

Hopefully, a majority of the City Council members will not be swayed by the NIMBY ostriches' cons shilling panic and fear with their "Heavy Industry" signs.

I find it interesting that the new NIMBY signage has subtly eliminated "toxic" and now rely entirely on simply: "Heavy Industry."

Perhaps they are also fearful of Steppenwolf's controversial lyrics in "Born to be Wild"

"...I like smoke and lightning

heavy metal thunder

racin' with the wind

and the feelin' that I'm under..."

So, would NIMBYs be against:

a) "smoke" (could be the pot - or exhaust from a motorcycle --- either way. cue the vapors)

b) "lightning" (dangerous God created spark of electricity)

c) " heavy metal thunder" (bikers - bad!)

d) "feeling...under" (again, the pot, not so much being under a motorcycle)

e) all of the above

As the kids would offer, "just sayin'"

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Zachary Baiel's avatar

Who doesn't like Born to be Wild?

The pros are obvious. What do you see as the cons, Christopher?

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Christopher Wood's avatar

Zach,

I came of age when the song was released. I do find it interesting that the music was straight ahead rock-blues, yet the term "heavy metal" was then applied to the hair bands a half-generation later that were more loud than "thoughtful."

As offered by Nigel Tufnel of "Spinal Tap".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xgx4k83zzc

I personally have no issue with the lyrics...I am suggesting NIMBYs would have a problem with those lyrics I listed.

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Zachary Baiel's avatar

Nice! It is a classic song. One of our kids enjoys "heavy metal", the classic variety (e.g. Black Sabbath).

Spinal Tap is magical, too.

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For the pros/cons question, I was referring the SK hynix. You had said: " I've concluded the pros of opening the way for this development that will put our city on the cutting edge of technology far outweigh the cons."

I was asking what you see as the cons are for the development.

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Christopher Wood's avatar

Good ask, Z.

First --- if one listens to the first B.S. album, it was not much different from the "prog" albums coming out at that time. Perhaps a lot more bass tones to give off an Edgar Allen Poe vibe. ;-)

I'm old enough to have learned in my lifetime that there's no such animal as "no downside," promises are made and lessons learned.

Having worked in the institutional investment field for decades, our mantra in has been "long-term, long-term, long-term." A policy is created for a client's needs and concerns, yet is not deviated from because of short-term blips in the market.

While the ratio of stock/bond/cash remains in place the diversification within that ratio will be adjusted.

That said, the con I consider is that there are science-oriented issues of which I have no understanding. The one that stands out is the NIMBY-based allegations that Eugene, Oregon's experience with SK was leaving behind tons of toxins.

In speaking with Mayor Easter at the most recent meeting at the Wellness Center, she assured me that there will be required tighter controls. The requisite city, county and state agencies will be involved in the monitoring the facility.

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Zachary Baiel's avatar

Thanks, Christopher. So much here to respond to. I will later this evening or tomorrow. Ha! Look for the edit.

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Zachary Baiel's avatar

Sorry Christopher. It took another day.

Agreed on Sabbath. I enjoy the first album, but really enjoy their second, Paranoid. It was one of my first CDs. I need to take another listen the self-titled album again...I just put it on now. It has been awhile.

Ha! Risks and rewards. Pros and cons. Profit, loss, and debt. All good considerations in life.

I bet you have some understanding of the science-oriented issues. For example, we can all agree that new inputs and outputs are going to exist in West Lafayette and Tippecanoe because of SK hynix and their 143+ suppliers that move to our immediate area and beyond (I think the dearth of information on the suppliers is shocking and it is as if no one knows who these companies are or what it is they supply).

Do you agree that this question is about rezoning a property PRF owns from R1 to I3 and not about approving SK hynix? From my view and engagement, the current opposition is fighting the rezone first and foremost. The City Council will vote on rezoning, not SK hynix.

What are your views with expanding the I3 footprint in this heavily zoned residential area? SK hynix, after the next round of evaluations and negotiations may find, as others have before them all over the world, that the sites don't actually "work" and abandon the project.

This would leave the newly rezoned land as I3 (since the rezone and development are separate actions) and something else besides SK hynix may develop there. The vote on Monday does not approve SK hynix and instead returns the answer back to Site A, which was shared in the beginning as a perfectly acceptable site.

And I have no doubt that agencies will be involved. I assume these will be the same agencies involved in every other accident and violation regardless of its nature (safety, environmental, etc).

It isn't a question of agency involvement, but agency effectiveness and execution at preventing the articulated risks. What recourse do residents of West Lafayette, Tippecanoe, and Indiana have if the risks are realized.

A decision with this much gravity should be taken with care and consideration. Do you think we have spent enough time, energy, discourse, and debate on the topics? Or are we simply looking at the clock saying, "Well. We gotta make a decision now."

If SK hynix passes, do you honestly believe the interest in West Lafayette will die?

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Zachary Baiel's avatar

📢 Breaking News: Greater Lafayette Chamber of Commerce supports commerce at all costs.

No risk is too big. No subsidy is too small.

(It would be fascinating to know what businesses the GLC hasn't supported. Maybe this is in the Indiana room at the Library.)

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Phthor Quiddity's avatar

They kind of put it right out there in their name, right? You would hardly expect McDonalds to promote veganism. A visit to the GLC office leaves no doubt about the identities of their big clients/supporters/stakeholders. It is entirely understandable that they would be eager to add SK Hynix to their pokémon deck.

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Phthor Quiddity's avatar

I suggest that supporters of the new factory stylize the longer word HYnix ("hi!") and opponents hyNIX. Kind of a Gulf of Mexico filter.

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