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"A key prediction of the theory is "cognitive surrender"-adopting AI outputs with minimal scrutiny, overriding intuition (System 1) and deliberation (System 2)."
Am I understanding this right? Student IDs were banned as voting ID, then, during early voting for a few days, they were allowed, and now aren’t? So some students voted that way, and now others voting in the same election aren’t allowed? Again, in the middle of the primary voting period.
How this is legal is beyond me.
Appeals process or not, once allowed, student IDs needed to be accepted at least through the primary.
Please someone tell me that I’ve misunderstood, at which point I can delete this rant.
By this logic then the student ids should have been excluded all along. They were originally not allowed and the appeal let them in. So if we want consistency and not changing mid voting period, keep them out for the entirety. Ps…I think they should be allowed to be used but truly don’t think there are many college students who don’t have another form of valid identification.
Not really. Although they were denied at the beginning, once they were allowed, any students (who were registered) could still come in and use their IDs to vote during the rest of the voting period. The appeal allowed some to vote, then turned it off for any others.
The requirement for the ID to be issued by the State of Indiana or the U.S. Government means that out of state drivers’ licenses don’t qualify. Which would shut out a lot of students.
Hello Jenn and BoilerRunner2023. I am curious, what is stopping a student from updating their current license or state issued ID to local Indiana one?
If the issue is having a state ID, and you want to vote where you attend college, the student could simply update their ID to use their Purdue University address.
Otherwise, the student is eligible vote, most likely by mail, where their permanent residence is, correct?
I have not heard anyone saying that students can't vote. They just can't vote in Indiana without a state issued ID.
Yes, students can vote with a state issued ID, and they were told that a student ID from Purdue qualifies.
My main point was about changing the requirement in the middle of the election. They've taken the steps to register in the first place, which is the biggest hurdle and many may think that their home DL ID that they've used everywhere across the country for everything else would be enough to prove their identity at the polls. Then they're told that doesn't work, but they can use their student ID. Then that changes; student ID doesn't work.
At this time of year with finals and other year-end work, it's just one more thing to work into the schedule. Confusion + Extra Work = Voter suppression. Looking at that alongside the battles that had to be fought just to get a polling place at Cordova.
I can understand why they wouldn't want to give up their home state ID just for this one reason. Maybe you can get a state ID without giving up your home DL, but again - more work, more confusion. I haven't heard of any fraud issues with using student IDs. It would be a lot of work to create a fake student ID to match someone's actual voter registration, ,just to cast one vote in an election.
Thanks, Dave. Sadly, as several studies have proven, AI does not assist in cognitive ability. Here's a recent one from The Wharton School:
Thinking—Fast, Slow, and Artificial: How AI is Reshaping Human Reasoning and the Rise of Cognitive Surrender
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=6097646
"A key prediction of the theory is "cognitive surrender"-adopting AI outputs with minimal scrutiny, overriding intuition (System 1) and deliberation (System 2)."
Am I understanding this right? Student IDs were banned as voting ID, then, during early voting for a few days, they were allowed, and now aren’t? So some students voted that way, and now others voting in the same election aren’t allowed? Again, in the middle of the primary voting period.
How this is legal is beyond me.
Appeals process or not, once allowed, student IDs needed to be accepted at least through the primary.
Please someone tell me that I’ve misunderstood, at which point I can delete this rant.
By this logic then the student ids should have been excluded all along. They were originally not allowed and the appeal let them in. So if we want consistency and not changing mid voting period, keep them out for the entirety. Ps…I think they should be allowed to be used but truly don’t think there are many college students who don’t have another form of valid identification.
Not really. Although they were denied at the beginning, once they were allowed, any students (who were registered) could still come in and use their IDs to vote during the rest of the voting period. The appeal allowed some to vote, then turned it off for any others.
The requirement for the ID to be issued by the State of Indiana or the U.S. Government means that out of state drivers’ licenses don’t qualify. Which would shut out a lot of students.
Hello Jenn and BoilerRunner2023. I am curious, what is stopping a student from updating their current license or state issued ID to local Indiana one?
If the issue is having a state ID, and you want to vote where you attend college, the student could simply update their ID to use their Purdue University address.
Otherwise, the student is eligible vote, most likely by mail, where their permanent residence is, correct?
I have not heard anyone saying that students can't vote. They just can't vote in Indiana without a state issued ID.
Hi Zach!
Yes, students can vote with a state issued ID, and they were told that a student ID from Purdue qualifies.
My main point was about changing the requirement in the middle of the election. They've taken the steps to register in the first place, which is the biggest hurdle and many may think that their home DL ID that they've used everywhere across the country for everything else would be enough to prove their identity at the polls. Then they're told that doesn't work, but they can use their student ID. Then that changes; student ID doesn't work.
At this time of year with finals and other year-end work, it's just one more thing to work into the schedule. Confusion + Extra Work = Voter suppression. Looking at that alongside the battles that had to be fought just to get a polling place at Cordova.
I can understand why they wouldn't want to give up their home state ID just for this one reason. Maybe you can get a state ID without giving up your home DL, but again - more work, more confusion. I haven't heard of any fraud issues with using student IDs. It would be a lot of work to create a fake student ID to match someone's actual voter registration, ,just to cast one vote in an election.